((The following comments have been edited from a series of posts by Mike Godwin on The Well in mid-June, '97 -- jt)) ---------------- Sun Jun 15 '97 (23:19) Some background: CMU announced in the wake of the Rimm/Time scandal (summer and fall of 1995) that it would investigate the Rimm "study" and determine whether any disciplinary or other institutional responses were warranted, both for Rimm and for his nominal faculty advisers, Marvin Sirbu and David Banks. Yet even though the original committee of inquiry report concluded that several aspects of Rimm's, Sirbu's, and Banks's behavior should be questioned, nothing came of their recommendations -- procedurally speaking, the whole investigation essentially disappeared. And it would likely have stayed invisible had not the untenured statistician David Banks, fearful that he was being set up as the scapegoat at a time when he was looking for a new faculty appointment elsewhere, begun to pressure CMU for a formal conclusion to the investigation it had announced, and for a formal clearing of his name. As Banks put it at one point (I paraphrase): "I'm going to be peer-reviewed by Donna Hoffman for the rest of my career, so it's important that it be formally established that I did nothing wrong." Banks has released much of the pre-scandal correspondence and most of the documents related to the post-scandal investigation to the CMU student radio station, which in turn sent them to me and to several others who were involved in uncovering the fraud that suckered Time magazine into promoting the Great Cyberporn Panic of 1995. The material is interesting to anyone who ever followed the Cyberporn Panic and Rimm's various roles in it. It includes evidence that explains why Rimm's material emphasized pedophilic content even though it did not purport to have found actual child-porn images. It explains why Rimm singled out Bob Thomas of Amateur Action BBS and asserted (in statements that Time's Philip Elmer-DeWitt never questioned) that Thomas was the "market leader" and the "Marquis de Cyberspace." It shows who Rimm's earliest contacts at the Department of Justice were, and it strongly suggests that Rimm and Sirbu were engaged in a high-level plot to defraud the Department of Justice out of research money. Among the materials we now have are the original CMU Committee of Inquiry report and several lengthy verbatim transcripts of a subsequent committee's interrogation of David Banks. We also have the original Banks-Rimm-Sirbu grant application to the Department of Justice, which CMU later reclassified as a "pre-application" so that Sirbu would not stand in violation of university regulatiosn regarding grant applications. I'm having all of the new material scanned or typed in, and will post it in this topic, as well as respond to questions about the materials. Before I post the new stuff, let me remind you of two major facts that will have some bearing in interpreting the materials. First, the only Usenet-usage material Rimm ever had came from CMU students' private files. Second, the only porn descriptions Rimm ever collected came from a single bulletin-board system in Milpitas, California, and this is apparent to anyone who reads the Georgetown Law Journal article that Rimm published. ..................... Mon Jun 16 '97 (19:07) Please note also that, of the charges raised by this report regarding Rimm and/or Sirbu, not one seems to have led to any real-world consequences. Given what some of the charges are, this in itself is quite remarkable. My comments, plus anything I post in this topic, may be reproduced by anyone who wishes to republish them elsewhere and in any medium. Copying of other documents is, in my opinion, not problematic under copyright law, given the newsworthiness of the material and the unlikelihood of any financial harm to anyone who claims to be a copyright holder and wishes to allege a claim of infringement. The above is not worded that well, but you get the idea. ....................... Tue Jun 17 '97 (10:18) The Pequena Panacha BBS case, in which Flores was a principal government player, is referenced in the now-famous Footnote 9 of the Rimm article: --------- [9] As a result of federal legal action against a few well known "adult" BBS operators, including Robert and Carleen Thomas (Amateur Action) and Robert Copella (Pequena Panacha), some systems have removed their paraphilic, pedophilic, and hebephilic imagery from public display. This has created a thriving underground market for "private collections" and anonymous ftp sites on the Internet, which cannot be studied systematically. Thus, it may be difficult for researchers to repeat this study, as much valuable data is no longer publicly available. See infra notes 89-95 and accompanying text. (One of the things that makes Footnote 9 so remarkable, apart from its blatant attempt to inoculate the Rimm claims against falsification, is that Philip Elmer-DeWitt accepted it unquestioningly.) But then David Banks comes along and decides to spill his guts -- and what's a fellow to do? The stuff is interesting (for me at least) -- especially the stuff to come. .........................